Johnny Riko wrote:Maekchu wrote:Johnny Riko wrote:
You really don't get it do you.
If you check my post history you will see I'm strongly adverse to increasing the skill points newbies get, and I never supported the idea of giving SP for the extended downtime.
The point of this thread is highlighting the hypocrisy in CCP's policy. In my opinion, this would be much more fair reallocation of SP compared to giving SP to something everyone, new and old experienced/was affected by.
No, I totally get what you are saying. I just disagree with what you are saying, because I feel your argument is weak and you honestly shouldn't feel entitled to anything.
There is a difference between the two cases you are highlighting.
New players creating new characters and getting a little SP buff, does not affect you in any way. The argument for that, can be seen above, as I argue that the SP difference is negligible.
When the server went down, it affected all EvE players. Meaning yes, it had an affect on your enjoyment of the game (simply because you couldn't log-in and enjoy space drama for a day).
Did CCP have to give you a SP refund? Not really. Although, it was a nice gesture of them to do it. I am sure they did it as a "Thank You" for putting up with them sorting out their hamsters.
Do you see the difference between the two cases and how you cannot directly link them?
I'm not entitled to anything. The fact remains that it is fair to give everyone who has already trained the skills a SP reallocation. If they removed a skill then those who had trained those skills would be given SP reallocations. The fact remains that those skills have for all intensive purposes being removed from the game because they are now given to you from the start. Clearly that is too much of a difficult concept for you to understand.
How is it different? CCP: "Sorry we've essentially made a weeks worth of skill training you paid for redundant, here is the SP back so you can spend it on other stuff!".
But you logic ignores the fact, that within that 5 month training advantage that you have, you could either have that extra 400k SP trained cause of optimization or be well on your way to that and more (Don't know the exact numbers, but as with the post Tippia made, it doesn't seem unrealistic).
You keep ignoring this very vital point. Your character has a great advantage over any newly created character, just by the fact that you should be able to just pop in those +5s if you wanted.
So with this, my argument is still that the SP buff for starting characters is negligible and is just a good way to adjust the starting point, considering the age of the game and their characters. At the end of the day, a 5 month character have enough of an advantage to make up for those 400K SP.
Since you have now, for two posts in a row, just stuck your fingers in your ears, while screaming "LALALALALA YOU JUST DON'T GET IT!". I will just conclude, that no matter what counter arguments are presented to you. You are not willing to have a rational debat about the topic, and instead just wish answers acknowledging your initial premise.
So I tip my hat to you sir, and calmly retreat back to my hideout (under the bridge) :D